If Man won’t do it, Nature will, William Shatner says.
(In the Star Trek episode “Mirror, Mirror,” Kirk meets a wicked Spock in a parallel universe. He dissuades his first officer from eradicating an uncooperative humanoid race. Image: StarTrek.com)
from Mark:
Star Trek star William Shatner said last week that the earth is striking back against humans with natural disasters.
“They [people] are pressed together, defecating into the ocean,” said Shatner, who played Captain James T. Kirk in Star Trek. “The earth can’t take it.”
At one point in a long conversation with talk show host Glenn Beck, Shatner decried humankind’s penchant for reproduction. (See clip, and an excerpt from the transcript, below). It is a position he shares with his fellow transhumanist, Max More.
In a strange blurring of real and virtual reality, both Shatner and his Star Trek character are heroes to the transhumanists, who view the human body as limited, imperfect, and in need of artificial augmentation.
The transhumanists also want to bring about “a social order where responsible decisions can be implemented.”
Shatner, a vigorous 74-year-old (he also appears to have been “under the knife”), was on Beck’s show to flog his new autobiography, Up Till Now.
Note: I was a contributing editor to one issue of Glenn Beck’s magazine, Fusion. — mb
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA2xn35NpdA]
Glenn Beck – Interviews – Shatner v. Glenn
Well, nature, nature eventually will take care of that problem like they did, like nature does with animals. We’re overgrazing. So when deer multiply, when the natural order of things is disturbed and predators are taken away, for example, the deer, they overpopulate, they eat too much of the food and they starve. And we’re going to — if we don’t curb — how do we stop the overpopulation? I guess it’s by education and saying you’ve got to have less children, you can’t have all the children you want anymore. There’s a difference in the world now. Or nature will take care of it.
Good afternoon, if i remember well, kirk is an old scotish word meaning church! bye
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Well, Shatner’s entitiled to his opinion of course
but I think we’re far from the global population limit (the local population limit in some of our cities is another story of course).
Am I reading a subtext here that “Shatner thinks lots of humans should die, and transhumanists like him, so transhumanists are eeevil”? Shatner is an actor who played a character on a really good TV show a long time ago. I’m sure some people are both Shatner fans and transhumanists, but do you have any actual evidence for the blanket statement that “both Shatner and his Star Trek character are heroes to the transhumanists”? I didn’t realize transhumanists had agreed on a set of heros; where’s the list?
The transhumanists “view the human body as limited, imperfect, and in need of artificial augmentation”. Is there some other plausible position? Everyone who thinks the human body is unlimited and imperfect, and eyeglasses are a tool of the devil, please raise your hand…
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And, sigh, my last sentence should of course have read “Everyone who thinks the human body is unlimited and perfect, and eyeglasses are a tool of the devil, please raise your hand…”. No “im”. I did proofread before submitting, I swear!
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Bill Shatner is a MSMW.
Main Stream Media Whore.
If you are even listen to him, or any of them, you have all ready lost the plot.
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With all population reductionists, there is only one thing to say: YOU FIRST!
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Well, as we all know, this is Shatners own opinion with which he came up by himself and with which he hadn’t been briefed before the show.
Because, you see, he got familiar with the concept during the shooting of StarTrek Episode “The Mark of Gideon”, where Kirk gets kidnapped to function as a donor of deadly viruses for the inhabitants of an overcrowded planet.
The episode can be found at youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLnBpnGlgzc&feature=related
For those with less patince the summary:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mark_of_Gideon_%28TOS_episode%29
Also note the use of hexagon patterns throughout the Gideans style, from the intercomscreen to wall decorations to the ranks, where the “queen bee” of the overpopulated hive wears the biggest patch.
We should thank those well-meaning and wise scriptwriters, that foresaw the urgent problems of the future, and let ourselves be inspired by this little tale, yet, when anyone comes along to dismiss this masterpeace as “predictive programming” (especially the deadly germ parts), we shall stick to the fact that is is “”just fiction”. Only nasty people would refer to this as doublethink.
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alex, i notice your tongue is firmly in your cheek. thanks for the links.
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Alex, if there were only more people like you out there… But my experience is that news like the story presented above serves only as an ultimatum when presented to the Profane… The Truth can help concretize people’s indoctrinations when they have an emotional attachment to something… Most of the Profane are totally incapable of transcending their pathetic Compartmentalisation in this system… As well as that, there is no doubt that those in the Western nATiONs truly do believe in the validity of their existence over other so called nATiONs and their herds (and the individuals that are disparate amongst them).
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I respect Kirk a little less now, he plays a crazy and obnoxious person so well (Boston Legal) that I’m glad he is still in acting.
However, worries about overpopulation frequently become the quick goto point for some people whenever there is an environmental or distribution problem somewhere. The problem with doing this is that dealing with “overpopulation” doesn’t actually fix the problem.
Note real world China. Strong population control policy, pollution rates rising-not falling. 1 child policy = 1 new coal power plant per week. Doesn’t look like saving the world to me.
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The way he talks about reading Rachel Carlson (it’s Carson!) 40 years ago makes me think he’s just aging and a little loopy. What else is a old man gonna talk about but the philosophy of plumbing?
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It’s already happening. There;s nothing “natural” about the weather these days. This is man-made. Google HAARP, chemtrails, and weather warfare.
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